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8:04 bro the most difficult thing is when you get your pcb and case from a pcb / case manufacturer and the pcb doesn't fit

my 40% ortho never gave me any hand or wrist problem, the only thing I had to do was map ctrl to escape in order to save my left wrist.

This is cool! But how people do you share a new and efficient way with your laptop?

Thank you! This was such a well detailed and helpful video.

Generally, humour is meant to be funny. Sorry wasn't funny.

Hello excuse me Dygma I need you to please find a way to skip September from happening maybe August too then I can have my raise 2 faster. Maybe as a planet we can all agree that Raise 2 launch is important so we don’t need August or September 2024 to happen okay thank you very much.

I will use most if not all of them since I have spent far to long dealing with the horible placement of symbols an the shift key lol then games just make this worse why is p an m used for stuff so often I have a mouse to use my second hand for

The roadmap is actually super cool! I'm always curious what Dygma is working on for future updates, and now I can check without nagging the discord chat 😂 More companies should do this for sure!

thank you for this update! i'm excited to receive my raise 2!! favorite news is all the tiny imperfections you noticed and addressed, wanting to make the keyboard flawless!

favorite news ? that october is still looking good as I can't wait :)

Dominique, the Big D? Ok, good!

Thank you for the video. And what about using KVMs ? Does the defy solves the problems the raise had with KVMs ?

favorite news was basically the whole video. It was all great news. Beta testing is starting, mass production seems to be going without much hiccups, the schedule doesn't seem to have delays like it did with the defy, i haven't had problems with the new bazecor. All sunshine and rainbows it seems!! Thank you for your amazing work!

Gracias Hermana!

For me, your company is a reference for professionalism and quality, congratulations and thank you for the content!

I can say that after many months with the Defy, the thumb cluster is a treat. I use very regularly 6 of the 8 keys, and the 2 most inner ones less often, and I wonder how I lived with only one key under my thumbs for most of my life! It felt challenging at first, but now it’s like a second nature. Can't wait to add more macros when they become available to use those thumb keys even more! 😀

All my keys I was able to replace fine on my dygma defy, except one - the thumb to the far right on the left-hand side. The Keycap "leg" snapped in the switch, and I can't remove it... =\

I did a lot of research on silent switches over a year ago. From what I gathered the best stock silent switches are Gazzew Bobagums, but the most silent switches IIRC are lubed Silent Alpacas V2. great video

Hello there, Hope you can help me!! I would like to get the Keychron K 10 UK iso with quiet switch with a slightly high activation force with tactility. Is this ppossioble? Would it work with thekeyswitch I'd like? Please I wo udl appreciate your help. Tahnks in advance.

Two, maximum three are best IMO.

Yes, Ergodox EZ is missing a thumb key there, that's why I didn't like it. I did use two extra thumb keys - the keys below v and m, by turning the key caps upside down so it's comfortable to press with the thumbs. But they also have a nice feature where you can tap and hold a dual function key to get it to hold the primary function. Repeating keys like space, backspace, enter, etc. is often useful. I wish you would implement that too. I tried using Super keys, but it doesn't work as well, you have to manually adjust the options and I wasn't able to get the same behavior, at best I got a long delay when single pressing (or pressing multiple times quickly) the key before it registers, which is unacceptable.

Hi Luis, I ordered the Raise 2 on the first hour on the launch day. Please consider the Magnetic Hall effect switches for Defy 2 and Raise 3. Currently, I am using a modified ZSA Voyager with 6 thumb keys on each side for productivity work and a Wooting for gaming.

More thumbs are always better.

Thymb keys are great! I love how you designed them in a Defy. I think that in Raise I will miss some of them as there is half of them.

More thumb-keys can be texture sometimes it gets smooth or sort of worn-out But it still works and feels much better. But some are wireless Bluetooth and some are well chord wired like. I know we are used to changing batteries but we don’t have to do that since there is chargeable ones now.

late to the game, but just pre-ordered :)

I just learned I'm a single shot kind if guy

Here in Brazil it's the exact opposite, there are a TON of iso keycaps, and... You guessed it, I use ansi, and it is a PAIN to find Keycaps for my Keyboard, there is another problem for me in particular, I have an Redragon K624P (Elise Pro) and my left shift is the normal length, but my right shift is the smaller one, not the lengthy one, but that's my keyboard layout problem, so I need those 131 keycaps set so i can get both ISO and ANSI just for that shift on the same set style

My collection of clicky switches disagree that there is no rabbit hole for them.😂

Hi great videos. Learnt a lot from your videos.

ZealPC Clickyz

@DygmaLab Miquel can you share your engram layout with the layers please?

good review, but that 2 minutes 20seconds unnecessary intro tho...

Dygma Defy is the ergonomic keyboard I was always looking for, and fulfilled 90%+ of my needs and wants. Being split, and wireless opens up so many better postural positions to use this in. Recommend this product to anyone looking for something worth keeping for the next 10 years

Hi here did you buy the Kailh Box Silent Pink please ?

The Defy looks wonderful. Having RSI at this point so looking to go all the way to the glove80 for the concave well, but if I were going off of looks as well I would be seriously considering the Defy. The 80 definitely has extraneous keys, but you can easily program those extra rows out.

I would LOVE for Dygma to release the Defy 2 with the Function Keys! My Defy is sitting in the travel case that it came in (I have only used it for an hour since receiving it in January...) and will probably remain there due to the lack of the Function keys. YES, YES, YES, there are layers, but honestly, there's nothing more functional than pressing a key vs. remembering what layer a key (or keys) are on 😊

I like the approach you guys take with the thumb cluster, of basically more = better and try to make as many of them reachable as possible. Feels like ZSA realized the thumb layout sucked on the ergodox/moonlander, but rather than improve it they just got rid of most of the keys lol. A low profile portable Dygma board something like a Voyager but with more thumb keys and wireless option could be sweet :)

I thought this conversation was cool.😎 It took me a long time to find a keyboard for myself and I think I had all the keyboards that were on the table as options. But in the end I decided on a completely different keyboard. I use the ADM42, which is a very small, compact keyboard. It has 42 keys and is columnar and it is also slightly curved. It has the shape of a Batman logo.😂

Great review, helps to see how much work has been put into your software and build. Please do you have any more info on how you are using the pogo pins in the new keyboard comming out soon? I'd love to see how extra buttons, or track ball might look ?

What are those chairs? I want one.

interesting content... on the edge of pre-ordering your new keyboard, but I'd love to hear/see what your ideas are for using the popo-pins ?

I appreciate the directness. Having to replug in cables, reflash firmware, restore lost configs, and repair 4 pcs through Bluetooth has gotten old. But the hardware is so nice, it’s hard to find a good, wireless, ortholinear keyboard. Here’s to getting the bugs figured out quickly.

super helpful. thanks for this comparison!

The Glove80 is the best keyboard I've encountered for several reasons, but two stand out the most: 1-The thumb cluster feels incredibly natural. 2-Once you use a concave keyboard, there's no going back. In my opinion, the only aspect where the Glove80 falls short is its tenting system.

Toggle macro? I click the key, it does the macro, on repeat, forever, until I press it again... Currently if you put a macro inside another macro that call each other, the keyboard just crashes after a few loops.

I still can't get used to not having a numpad or arrow button... But in all honesty, the typing experience I had on the v1 Raise for 4 years (wait, really....) has been great. I think it helped me type, and overall it feels better typing reports on this, rather than the standard. Still trying to think if I want to change my raise to a defy...

Before I watched: BECAUSE THEY ARE FLIPPIN EXPENSIVE

I went through a few splits but hit my endgame this montn! Mistel MD770 > Dygma Raise > Filco Xacro M10SP The filco just works so well for me with the 10 macro keys down the middle, i had no break in time it just worked! I love the dygma and what you guys do but the filco just fit better

This discussion reminds me of a presentation that author Malcolm Gladwell did a long time ago (linked below). It was about a company researching the recipe for the perfect one-size-fits-all spaghetti sauce. They might have found some basic principles, but they finally concluded that you can’t satisfy everyone with one sauce, because tastes differ too much. Some people liked smoother sauces while others like chunks, some people liked a spicier sauce, etc. etc. Therefore it’s better to make multiple different sauces. ruclips.net/video/VkhFh5Ms1vc/видео.html The same is true for keyboards. Some people want hot-swappable while others want a concave keywell, some people want more keys while others want maximum portability, some people want to stay with row staggered while other are prepared to learn column staggered, some people are willing and able to invest more money than others, some people want LEDs everywhere while others couldn’t care less, etc. etc.